tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post3005270380708834787..comments2024-03-01T07:43:16.529-06:00Comments on Smart City Memphis: Searching For A National Caliber SuperintendentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-13573405088599637142008-05-08T16:25:00.000-05:002008-05-08T16:25:00.000-05:00I have seen the finalists for the next superintend...I have seen the finalists for the next superintendent that was releasted in PDF file on WREG.Kelvin Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14387828915820347760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-27278373138631377992008-05-08T11:25:00.000-05:002008-05-08T11:25:00.000-05:00Thanks, Harvey and George, for the best discussion...Thanks, Harvey and George, for the best discussion we've heard about these issues in months.Smart City Consultinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985783340016474051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-30007518364962357242008-05-08T11:19:00.000-05:002008-05-08T11:19:00.000-05:00Harvey, Absolutely!GeorgeHarvey, <BR/><BR/>Absolutely!<BR/><BR/>GeorgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-67171930577245804472008-05-08T10:24:00.000-05:002008-05-08T10:24:00.000-05:00George I agree with your last post. It was eloquen...George I agree with your last post. It was eloquent and right on. Let me ask you this.<BR/><BR/>Do you agree with me that it is vital for the city (gov't and people) to give our new superintendent (whether that be Willie Herenton or anyone else) as much support as possible and create a job environment that allows him/her the tools and room to tackle his/her part in the Memphis City Schools situation?Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16251323652168004578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-68213584188858520442008-05-08T10:10:00.000-05:002008-05-08T10:10:00.000-05:00As we try to resolve the problems of MCS I hope we...As we try to resolve the problems of MCS I hope we don't fall into the trap of saying we can't do it because of this personality or that personality. Mayor Herenton, in his speech the other day, made it clear that this needs to be about the schools and the children and not him. Saying we cannot do it because of him becomes an excuse which will paralyze us. He is the mayor, for better or worse. <BR/><BR/>I agree that the problems and politics of Memphis are great. I don't think that means we should not try to achieve the best solution possible. Often people say we can't solve the problems of education by "throwing money at it." However, in this country we seem very content to throw money at any problem we believe we can solve with a military solution. Amazing isn't it. The cost of one Bomber is often greater than the cost of educating all the children in Memphis for a year. <BR/><BR/>Yes, the situation in DC is different, though I am not sure people there would agree with your characterization of Fenty, there is much distrust among many regarding the schools there. All cities and school systems are different, each is unique, however, the problems facing many of them are quite similar. <BR/><BR/>DC is like Memphis in many ways. Though the school district there is much smaller (about 67,500 students). The problems faced in urban school districts are not insurmountable. It took a long period of neglect to get here and most of the problems are associated with the poverty of the residents in these urban areas. We could continue to lament these problems or we can look for the leadership to address them. <BR/><BR/>I do not think there are any silver bullet solutions to education. The solutions are to be found in providing the support for the teachers to do the best job possible. I fear our current centralized approach at MCS is not doing that very well. We do need strong leadership in this district to get back on track. We also need leadership which in not afraid to reach out to the community for the support necessary. <BR/><BR/>Current "leadership," from the board to the administration is all too often taking a head in the sand approach and denying that there are problems. This is not about fixing blame on these individuals, it is about the leadership necessary to step up to the plate and take the bold steps for the future. Michelle Rhee is doing that in DC, Joel Kelin is doing that in NY, Rudy Crew is doing that in Miami-Dade. We need to find someone willing to do that in Memphis. <BR/><BR/>GeorgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-64867004782594055302008-05-08T09:22:00.000-05:002008-05-08T09:22:00.000-05:00George, I agree with your final sentiment about th...George, <BR/><BR/>I agree with your final sentiment about the search process. But, the comparison to DC has too many holes.<BR/><BR/>Their mayor is a 35 old lawyer and career politician, not an educator and not yet at least, a mayor who hands down thinly veiled ultimatums.<BR/><BR/>At least Rhee and Fenty have a clear, defined relationship. As it stands, unless our next Superintendent walks in step with Herenton, he/she will have a plagued tenure that feels the constant pressure of a mayor who is holding a proverbial gun over their head and a city that supports that Mayor. <BR/><BR/>My main point is this: Lack of money is not a huge roadblock to us getting a qualified superintendent. It plays a quiet second fiddle to the stormy climate that the candidate would be entering. Since Mayor Herenton has chosen to "lay down the law" about his proposal and hasn't offered a laurel branch to any newcomers (big suprise), no one is going to come to Memphis knowing they have to work in the city that has its favorite son breathing down his neck. <BR/><BR/>I can see it now, Mr,/Mrs. X from the "Urban School district X that is very similar to Memphis" comes in and takes the job. 6 months later, when he/she hasn't adopted all of Herenton's plans and we haven't yet seen a return to the days of East and Central topping the national school rankings, Herenton "reminds" the city that he was a pretty good superintendent in his day and that we and the superintendent were stupid not to listen to him. <BR/><BR/>If we are not getting looks or seeing interest from the best superintendents in America, maybe it is more because of this situation than because of the money.Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16251323652168004578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-81004947351584646212008-05-08T08:43:00.000-05:002008-05-08T08:43:00.000-05:00Nationally the average salary for a school distric...Nationally the average salary for a school district with 25,000 students or more is $200,751 according to the American Association of School Administrators. Given that our district is four times larger, should our salary be four times the amount? Doubtful, but you get the jist. <BR/><BR/>The $260,000 salary suggested by Ray and Associates, the search firm, is in line with what other large urban districts are paying in Tennessee; however, Memphis is the largest. <BR/><BR/>Compare the salary of Michelle Rhee of Washington DC, $275,000 plus bonuses if she meets achievement goals laid out in her contract. Then consider that there is an additional position in DC taking care of all the operations with a like salary. In other words DC is spending more than half a million to address the problems there. Note that the situation there is not unlike that of Memphis. By the way, Rhee better be in-step with Mayor Fenty of DC as she reports directly to him and not to a school board. Recently research by Ken Wong of Brown University, formerly Vanderbilt U, has shown the successes this type of arrangement is bringing to districts around the country. <BR/><BR/>When a corporation looks for a top leader they don't put an ad in the Wall Street Journal; they go find him/her. I believe SmartCity is saying that MCS needs to do the same.<BR/><BR/>GeorgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-69050973068706972242008-05-07T22:46:00.000-05:002008-05-07T22:46:00.000-05:00Smart City or Anyone: What is the per capita salar...Smart City or Anyone: What is the per capita salary for a superintendent based on size of constituency for the top 200 cities by population in America? <BR/><BR/>Is Memphis way behind currently in our salary? Would making the superintendent's salary $500,000 push Memphis to the forefront in per capita salary and in total salary?<BR/><BR/>I think its a little shortsighted to suggest that more money will cause someone who is not currently interested in the Memphis city job to change their mind. If there is a surplus of qualified candidates who aren't interested in the job (not saying there are, but if there are) maybe it is because they see what they might be getting into.<BR/><BR/>Would you want to come to a job that has the challenges Memphis City Schools offer AND deal with a mayor who has flirted strongly with returning to that job AND holds near mythic status in the minds of many Memphians? On top of that, he has hinted that if the new superintendent is not in agreement with the mayor, they are "doomed to failure" I know I wouldn't want to walk into a situation like that, no matter what the amount of money was.<BR/><BR/>Against that, I believe Mayor Herenton should be offering a helping hand and the wealth of experience he has to the new superintendent, not a veiled threat that will only serve to burden our new Sup's job. Of course, that scenario could only play out if the Mayor made it totally clear, once and for all, what his plans are for after his time as mayor. Instead, he continues to make murky hints that are up to interpretation. The craziest part is that not only do we not demand clarity from his statements, we seem to enjoy when he dances around this issue.<BR/><BR/>Instead, he lays out a comprehensive plan (which by the way, seems like it has some great facets) on how to save the city schools and says, in effect, if the new Sup doesn't do this, he is in for a tough road as the leader of our schools. <BR/><BR/>So, no, money will not make that situation better, nor will it attract anyone who is skilled and seasoned enough to Memphis unless they are intentionally looking for the toughest situation possible. In my opinion those kind of people are either overly zealous or overly greedy for money. Neither of those qualities should be at the top of the list for a candidate, in my opinionHarveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16251323652168004578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12509286.post-89311484003409123252008-05-07T21:55:00.000-05:002008-05-07T21:55:00.000-05:00Someone like Michelle Rhee of Washington, DC. Sha...Someone like Michelle Rhee of Washington, DC. Shake it up, no more business as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com